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Katie: Howdy, and welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from and, that’s wellness with an E on the top. And I’m right here with a pricey private pal and somebody whose work I deeply admire, that’s Tina Anderson of Simply Thrive probiotics, and he or she’s fascinating. She started her profession as a trial lawyer who specialised in settling circumstances by bringing either side collectively, which is a private ardour of hers. And after her second little one, she left her high-stress work behind to deal with household. And now, after her personal well being journey and quite a lot of analysis within the discipline of pure well being, she discovered her life’s work, which is illness prevention and well being upkeep. And he or she’s the founding father of Simply Thrive alongside together with her husband, and I’ve been utilizing and speaking about their merchandise for years.


I used to be excited to have her on immediately to speak about psychobiotics, which is a brand new time period that’s actually, actually fascinating. And I’ve been doing a little analysis right here as nicely. We go deep on this and particularly the gut-brain connection, how the gut-brain axis is so necessary, how psychobiotics can affect psychological well being and resilience, how mind irritation is commonly a supply of quite a lot of stress and different points that we’ve, and so many different areas. She’s very well-spoken on this. I realized quite a bit. Psychobiotics is a brand new time period for me. I feel you’ll study quite a bit, too, so let’s be a part of Tina. Tina, welcome again.


Tina: Thanks, Katie. I’m so excited to be again.


Katie: Nicely, I all the time love speaking to you, and it’s particularly enjoyable after we get to file it, and we’re gonna get to go deep on some actually enjoyable matters immediately. However earlier than we do, to assist folks get to know you just a little bit higher, I’ve a observe in my present notes that I’ve witnessed firsthand, which is that you simply love to bounce, particularly on elevated surfaces and particularly with a tambourine in hand. So should you don’t thoughts, simply give us just a little bit overview as a result of I do know there’s some cool like tradition dancing that comes out of your background, and it’s so enjoyable.


Tina: Sure. Sure. Oh, my gosh. You’ve gotten witnessed that, haven’t you? Embarrassed to confess, however yeah.. You already know what? I like music. I like listening to music. And I’m Serbian, and Serbian music is one thing that’s tremendous necessary to me and I adore it. It touches my soul and for no matter cause, one thing simply brings me to, like, tables, and I begin dancing on tables, or chairs, or no matter it is likely to be that’s elevated. That’s not essentially tied to being Serbian, but it surely’s simply one thing that I do. And I snigger as a result of certainly one of my daughters has adopted swimsuit, and we supply that trait collectively. So, it’s enjoyable.


Katie: I adore it. Yearly I do a factor that will get me out of my consolation zone, which previously has led to voice classes and standup comedy, and this 12 months, it’s dancing. So perhaps this 12 months I’ll be becoming a member of you within the dancing struggle. We’ll see.


Tina: Sure. I might love that.


Katie: Nicely, for the majority of what we wished to speak about immediately, you guys have so many merchandise, and everyone listening has in all probability already heard me rave about them as a result of they’re staples in my life and in my children’ lives. And there’s a brand new one which I’m excited to study extra about from you immediately, and I feel this can be a actually necessary matter that we’re not speaking that a lot about. So, I do know that there’s a brand new temper and mind product that you simply guys have developed, and this has been a spotlight for you for some time. So I might love to simply get some broad overview of just a little bit about it and why this was an necessary focus for you guys.


Tina: Yeah. Nicely, you already know, one of many massive core values that we’ve is that we solely launch merchandise which can be lacking and wanted available in the market. I imply, that’s after we launched the, you already know, spore-based probiotic, we have been the primary. We have been simply disruptors within the probiotic house, and we didn’t wanna simply launch any probiotic as a result of there have been so many. We actually wanna discover issues which can be lacking and really wanted available in the market. And given the truth that temper problems are off the charts proper now, particularly, you already know, even earlier than 2020, earlier than the pandemic, they have been already off the charts. Folks had been skilled a lot stress, notably during the last two years. We’ve got seen temper problems, nervousness problems at an all-time excessive. There’s one research that confirmed that 8 out of 10 U.S. adults really feel a lot stress that it’s truly affecting their bodily wellbeing.


So, we’ve actually delved into quite a lot of the analysis on temper and what can we do to really get to the basis explanation for it. And quite a lot of researchers from a few of the largest establishments are actually beginning to check out that gut-brain connection. And I feel the explanation for that’s that if you take a look at psychiatric care, it actually hasn’t modified during the last, you already know, in all probability 60 years. The identical class of medication have been used, that are the anti-anxiety meds, the SSRIs which can be used for despair. So, primarily, the identical class of medication have been used for many years with minimal success. And, you already know, psychiatrists have had their fingers tied as a result of they don’t actually have many instruments. However because it seems as we… It all the time appears to prove the pure world has all these methods to handle the problem and to get to the basis explanation for it.


And since the basis explanation for mind and psychological well being points aren’t essentially stemming from the mind, they’re truly stemming from the intestine, and that’s why it’s so highly effective. You already know, we’ve heard folks say, you already know, the intestine is the second mind. Nicely, actually, what quite a lot of researchers are actually saying is that the intestine is the primary mind as a result of the intestine is absolutely dictating a lot of what’s occurring within the mind. One space of cognitive operate that many medical consultants have been talking on and researching is that this unimaginable connection between the intestine and the mind. So, it’s actually been an space that we’ve centered on and are excited to, you already know, convey a few of the analysis behind it to our clients and to convey options to them.


Katie: And I feel that’s an necessary level. And as a caveat, I do know you’re feeling the identical method, however I feel docs go into medication with a real need to assist folks. Each physician I’ve met has been…had that true coronary heart to assist folks. And I really feel like quite a lot of them really feel as handcuffed by the system as lots of people do as sufferers. And I’ve heard even docs say, you already know, folks don’t have these points due to an SSRI deficiency. It is likely to be a Band-Help, but it surely’s not trying on the root trigger, to your level. And I feel that’s the place the perfect outcomes are after we can mix the 2. And positively, there are occasions when folks do want conventional medical care. I’m an enormous proponent of remedy and various strategies there as nicely, however I feel the intestine will not be talked about sufficient with regards to psychological well being. And I’m so excited that you simply guys are getting into this dialog and actually educating about it. Are you able to clarify extra in regards to the gut-brain entry for individuals who aren’t aware of that time period and what it does?


Tina: Yeah. Completely. You already know, the gut-brain entry, you already know, it mainly is the intestine and the mind are related by means of the vagus nerve. So, the gut-brain entry refers to this bidirectional communication between the intestine and the mind. And so, the enteric nervous system is that this neurological system that wraps across the total digestive tract. And, after all, the microbes in our intestine have full entry to this enteric nervous system, and thru the enteric nervous system and thru circulation of the microbes within the intestine, there’s numerous ways in which these microbes are affecting the mind. After which, one of many first methods is thru this endocrine system. So, the cells throughout the intestine lining may be triggered by the microbes to supply compounds like 5-HTP and different precursors to hormones. And we all know that the intestine produces neurotransmitters like serotonin. The truth is, 90% to 95% of our serotonin is produced in our intestine. Dopamine is produced within the intestine, GABA’s produced in our intestine.


After which, we’ve postbiotics that are made by the micro organism within the intestine. So short-chain fatty acids and hormone precursors are all made by the intestine micro organism, after which these postbiotics can impression the mind. So, once more, it’s simply this communication between the intestine and mind is bidirectional. That is very nicely documented. You already know, now researchers are very a lot beginning to perceive this, and alerts go down from the mind, go all the way down to the intestine, and from the intestine, go as much as the mind. So it’s fairly fascinating, and now we all know that even way of life decisions like food plan and way of life, you already know, the stress and the temper that we expertise actually have an effect on our intestine, after which, after all, what’s occurring in our intestine is affecting our mind.


Katie: And I positively have witnessed that firsthand in my life when previously I’ve had intestine points and realizing, like, the mind fog and, like, the cloudiness that comes from that, after which conversely, I’ve observed if you work on that and actually help your intestine, the readability, and focus, and power that come alongside from that. And I like that you simply introduced out the time period postbiotics as a result of I really feel like this is likely to be a brand new phrase for lots of people. We’ve all heard about probiotics and quite a lot of us have heard about prebiotics, and also you guys have nice merchandise for each of these. I really feel just like the time period postbiotics is a considerably of a brand new idea, but it surely actually helps to, like, tie that each one in of the way it’s not a one-way avenue in any respect, such as you stated, and the way they each help one another and the way that sort of is a circle that may be in a constructive path, or should you’re not supporting them, it may sort of go in a unfavourable path. Are you able to speak just a little bit extra about postbiotics and the way that course of works?


Tina: Yeah. So, mainly, postbiotics are simply byproducts of the micro organism in our intestine. And one of many most important ones that we consider are short-chain fatty acids. And so, quite a lot of just like the butyrate, all of these kinds of short-chain fatty acids which can be produced by the micro organism in your intestine are thought of postbiotics. And like I discussed, just like the precursors to hormones are additionally thought of postbiotics, and so they, mainly, are simply the byproducts of the micro organism in our intestine. And that’s why it’s so critically necessary that we’ve wholesome micro organism that’s already in our intestine as a result of they’re producing…they’re byproducts of that micro organism and can have an effect on our mind and different organs. And, you already know, we talked about… We all know that the mind impacts the intestine, however…I imply the intestine impacts the mind, however the intestine is affecting nearly each side of our total well being. And I can’t overstate that sufficient. So, it’s actually necessary that we’re taking good care of our intestine as a result of the micro organism is producing postbiotics, it’s additionally affecting how our different organs are functioning.


Katie: Completely. And the way every part appears to tie in there even like I’ve talked quite a bit in regards to the emotional psychological facet of well being just lately, and there’s so many cool research about how, like if you’re in a relentless state of stress or combat or flight, that really is affecting your intestine micro organism straight after which that has rollover penalties into your complete physique. And I’ve additionally heard you speak in regards to the time period psychobiotic, and that was a brand new one for me. So, are you able to clarify what meaning?


Tina: Yeah. Truly, the time period psychobiotic has been…it’s sort of new for everyone as a result of it was coined in about 2013 by two psychiatrists and so they mainly… What psychobiotic refers to is the pleasant micro organism that play a task within the gut-brain entry and that influences the well being and exercise of your mind. So, it’s mainly the probiotic strains that assist enhance temper and cognitive operate. So it’s… And this, our new product, is taken into account a psychobiotic, which is absolutely thrilling. And, you already know, to go even again up just a little bit, the largest offenders to and the basis explanation for all psychological well being points is mainly that mind irritation. So mind irritation we now know causes this cognitive operate, issues like nervousness, despair, cognitive decline, all of those psychological problems, and psychological well being problems are all attributable to irritation within the mind. And so, we all know that the 2 greatest offenders to mind irritation are LPS toxins, which I’ve talked about earlier than on podcasts with you, however mainly LPS toxins are lipopolysaccharides that are usually present in our intestine micro organism in our intestine, however they don’t seem to be problematic. They’re probably not problematic after they’re in our intestine. They develop into problematic after they seep into our bloodstream.


After which, the opposite offender is stress-induced basal irritation, which mainly are these exterior stresses that we take care of day in and time out just like the concern, the social isolation, trauma, visitors, you already know, combating, you already know, all these varieties of issues that we’re coping with frequently. So, the 2 varieties of offenders to this mind irritation are the LPS toxins that seep into our bloodstream and this stress-induced basal irritation. So, the excellent news is that, you already know, the… The unhealthy information… Let me go together with the unhealthy information first. The LPS that leaks into our bloodstream could be very problematic. And we all know from the research, we did a double-blind human scientific trial on leaky intestine and confirmed that, you already know, 55% of younger wholesome faculty college students had a leaky intestine and didn’t understand it. So, they estimate that most individuals are having that LPS seep into their bloodstream frequently. They estimate that about 80% of the grownup inhabitants has a leaky intestine and doesn’t even understand it. And so, this LPS results in continual low-grade irritation and is affecting all of our organs, not simply our mind, however we do know that, you already know, LPS is related to greater ranges of tension, age-related problems. So, there was a research that got here out, I feel in 2017, that microbiome-derived LPS has been proven to be greater in folks with Alzheimer’s.


So, you already know, this LPS is a large indication of Alzheimer’s illness. After all, that’s an inflammatory illness, after which identical with Parkinson’s illness. So, you already know, one of these dysfunction that causes nervousness and despair is identical, and it’s all pushed by LPS toxins within the bloodstream. So, as an organization, that was certainly one of our most important objectives, is to guard that intestine lining, and that’s why we launched Simply Thrive spore-based probiotic. Simply by taking the spores alone, we noticed a 60% discount of LPS toxins that leaked into circulation. So if you scale back that LPS from going into your bloodstream, all the inflammatory markers come down. I imply, it was unimaginable what that research confirmed us. So should you’re taking the probiotic alone, you’re midway there. You already know, we already know that the probiotic alone is that primary a part of mind well being and cognitive operate as a result of we’ve to cease the LPS from seeping into the bloodstream as a result of these LPS toxins are going as much as the mind and inflicting irritation.


After which, after all, the opposite a part of that’s that stress-induced basal irritation that I discussed that’s mainly the exterior stresses that we’re coping with every day. And so, after we get an exterior stress, these exterior stresses instantly set off a response to the hypothalamus and the pituitary glands, after which that activates the adrenal gland that then releases cortisol. And we all know that cortisol begins rising irritation within the physique and it’s, you already know, very, very dangerous. I’m certain you’ve talked about cortisol numerous instances, but it surely’s very dangerous, particularly to our mind as a result of it causes that irritation. So, you already know, the place we got here in is how do… We already understand how we’re lowering that LPS toxins. We already know we’re eliminating the vast majority of the LPS toxins seeping into the bloodstream by sealing up that intestine lining. However then the query grew to become, how can we arrest these exterior stresses?


And the good information and the place quite a lot of our analysis has been specializing in is there’s a compound referred to as peptidoglycan, and it’s been proven this means to arrest these exterior stresses. And the fascinating factor is that peptidoglycans is handed from mom to little one whereas the kid is in utero. And I all the time am stressing about that. I’m all the time attempting to inform mothers who’re pregnant to be taking good care of their intestine as a result of all of those intestine micro organism and the great ones are being handed onto the kid.


So these peptidoglycans are referred to as an exopolysaccharide, and that’s necessary as a result of this exopolysaccharide truly has a layer round it and that layer is what makes it extra resistant and resilient so it may survive by means of the gastric system. You already know, we talked quite a bit in regards to the spore-based probiotics. They’ve that means, they’ve endospore shell round themselves and that enables them to get by means of to the, you already know, gastric system and to the…or get by means of the gastric system to the gut. And that’s what’s so distinctive in regards to the exopolysaccharides, is that they have that means to get by means of the gastric system. And so, bifidobacterium longum is a peptidoglycan, and so it’s this exopolysaccharide. And so, when it will get into the massive gut, it truly has the power to mediate the inflammatory response by the center. And this bifidobacterium longum 1714 is the pressure that’s utilized in our new product, Simply Calm. And it continues to be according to our different merchandise that we’ve launched, you already know, and that it’s nicely researched, backed by science, it’s lacking and wanted available in the market, and it’s thought of a psychobiotic by all definitions. So it’s actually, actually thrilling.


Katie: And I feel that’s an necessary level that it’s synergistic with the spore-based probiotic as nicely as a result of then you definately’re like sealing and also you’re additionally then supporting the mind facet. And I do know we’ve had a complete dialog about this previously. I’ll ensure that’s linked within the present notes, however are you able to give us only a temporary overview? You talked about it just a little little bit of what separates spore-based probiotics from quite a lot of the opposite ones we see on cabinets as a result of this was new for me. I used to assume years in the past like, “Oh, you want refrigerated probiotics in order that they’re nonetheless alive” and all these items, and also you helped me actually like perceive the distinction in what’s occurring in digestion if you’re speaking about these specifics spore-based probiotics.


Tina: Yeah. So the largest distinction with spore-based probiotics is their means to outlive the gastric system and arrive alive within the intestines. The vast majority of probiotics simply are delicate organisms. They aren’t capable of make that journey from the mouth by means of the digestive tract and into the intestines alive. Not solely does the physique temperature usually kill them, however the gastric system, the abdomen, could be very acidic. It’s meant to be a gastric barrier. And so, we all know that the spore-based probiotics has this endospore shell round itself and that enables it to reach of alive within the intestines. After which when it will get to the intestines, it truly has the power to remain there for about 21 to twenty-eight days, and it’s actually within the microbial atmosphere. So it’s doing one thing totally different in your intestine than my intestine. And so, it’s actually unimaginable.


And like I stated, we’ve carried out many, many research on these strains, and probably the most profound research we did was on leaky intestine or metabolic endotoxemia. And what that research confirmed is that after taking these strains for about 30 days, it decreased the LPS toxins seeping into the bloodstream by about 60%. And this was with no different dietary or way of life modifications. It was, you already know, given to in any other case wholesome faculty college students, which everyone knows what faculty college students do to their our bodies. So it’s actually an unimaginable… It’s so foundational to our well being as a result of if you’re sealing up that intestine lining and also you’re not permitting, you already know, these toxins to seep into your bloodstream, it’s not creating that inflammatory response. So it’s a completely totally different class, very nicely researched, and has been so life-changing for thus lots of our clients. It’s been actually thrilling.


Katie: Yeah. I’ve positively… It’s the primary probiotic, and I’ve talked about this quite a bit, that I’ve ever felt the distinction from, and that now could be a staple in our home together with just about your whole merchandise at this level, even for pets. However I’d like to go just a little deeper on the Simply Calm and this particular pressure as a result of I feel that is gonna be a complete new space of intestine well being that we’re simply beginning to perceive and I feel you guys are actually main the cost right here. And I additionally know from listening to from the viewers, girls, particularly proper now, are combating nervousness and overwhelm and quite a lot of these items that we’re speaking about. So, stroll us by means of just a little little bit of like what’s occurring particularly within the intestine. And that’s so cool too that you simply talked about that that is certainly one of… Like mainly what’s handed on from mom to little one, which we now know from analysis, many people could not have gotten an optimum begin with, relying on how we have been born, identical factor with our children, relying on the delivery situation. I’ve been at quite a lot of births and issues like antibiotics can interrupt that course of, C-Sections can interrupt that course of, and there’s methods to assist mitigate these conditions as nicely. However for these of us who’re already born, these are some ways in which we may help rehabilitate.


Tina: Proper. Precisely. Yeah. So this explicit pressure, it’s bifido longum 1714. It’s so extensively researched and scientifically verified as a temper help product. It’s very new available in the market. We’re so enthusiastic about it. It’s new available in the market, but it surely’s truly a standard a part of our intestine commensal flora. It’s remoted from wholesome people. So this is part of our regular intestine flora. And one of many research on this bifido longum 1714 was carried out by APC Institute out of Cork, Eire, and it’s probably the most preeminent gut-brain institutes on the planet. They usually checked out samples of individuals with temper problems like nervousness and despair versus individuals who do not need these temper problems, and what they discovered is that folks with no temper problems had excessive ranges of this bifido longum 1714 pressure.


So, you already know, there was a four-week human scientific trial that confirmed that this pressure decreased perceived stress, it improved reminiscence, it decreased psychological fatigue, it positively supported brainwave exercise, which is absolutely thrilling, and improved the power to deal with that occasional stress. So, you already know, who wouldn’t need that this present day? And one of many questions that one of many human scientific trials wished to find out is how does the 1714 pressure truly translate as a psychobiotic into the modulation of stress operate and the brainwave operate? So, they mainly wished to know, can this pressure within the face of induced stress modulate cortisol and an individual’s perceived stress response and coronary heart price? And on the whole, what they noticed is that this 1714 pressure decreased perceived stress and cortisol output, which is large. They know that this pressure is arresting that inflammatory biking, after which finally the HPA entry triggering slows down after which finally shuts down, after which much less and fewer cortisol and stress hormones are produced.


After which numerous research truly have been carried out… These are human scientific trials that have been carried out on day-to-day stress in addition to massive stressors that impression brainwave functioning, which is absolutely thrilling. We all know that having excessive ranges of the delta and beta wave ranges is related to a heightened stress state. And so this research confirmed a big lower in beta wave operate. And that is what’s thrilling, and a rise in theta wave operate. And, after all, we all know theta wave is related to that move state. You already know, if you discuss being actually calm, having actually good cognitive operate and, you already know, not getting distracted simply. In order that’s referred to as the move state, and it’s measured by this enhance in theta wave operate within the mind. And the research confirmed that this probiotic pressure can truly alter mind wave operate. It additionally confirmed it may scale back psychological fatigue as a result of your mind will not be as infected if you’re in a greater mind-set. And it additionally confirmed that this pressure improves coping mechanism and scale back the unfavourable feelings that usually come from stress. So the research are so intensive on the pressure, and it’s so thrilling to have the ability to convey one thing so new and so highly effective to the market.


Katie: And I feel that resilience piece is absolutely key as nicely as a result of we’re clearly all gonna encounter stress that’s not going away nor ought to it. There’s truly a wholesome place for sure quantities of stress, however I really feel like that resilience can usually be the distinction, particularly as a mother for the times the place I get a ton carried out and I nonetheless should take care of quite a bit, however I’m not overwhelmed and I really feel like I’m productive and on high of it, versus the times the place simply each little factor appears to simply amp up that overwhelm. And there’s been some superb books written about resilience and, after all, like methods we will use on a logistical stage in our homes, however I feel addressing the bodily facet is absolutely necessary and there haven’t been nice assets for that previously. It was sort of such as you sort of simply needed to attempt issues and take a look at to determine what labored. And positively, we all know issues like a nutritious diet and lowering inflammatory inputs makes an enormous distinction, however such as you stated, for these of us who perhaps have already got had intestine irritation or mind irritation, taking one thing focused like this actually is a leg-up to coping with that and to feeling extra resilient which then lets you’ve gotten the power and the motivation to do all the opposite issues that assist as nicely.


Tina: Proper. Completely. And we’ve to recollect, like attending to the basis explanation for all of this. There’s quite a lot of merchandise on the market which can be getting, you already know, placing a Band-Help on and serving to folks make, you already know, making them really feel higher, however attending to the basis explanation for this irritation and this response is absolutely necessary. And we’ve to grasp that what’s inflicting all of that is irritation. And so, we’ve to watch out with that, you already know, pay attention to that and be aware of that.


And so, yeah, then we determined to launch Simply Calm, which is absolutely thrilling, and it’s actually thrilling. This was such an necessary product for us that we determined to really launch it underneath a brand new sub-brand referred to as Joot, J-O-O-T, which is sort of thrilling. So we love the OO which truly, you already know, it comes from the, you already know, 007 James Bond and, you already know, the double O is related to being superior, and boosted, and up-leveled. So you already know, we even… Lots of people will say that OO is even fortunate. You already know, quite a lot of good model, massive iconic manufacturers on the market like Yahoo, and Google, and Zoom all have the double O’s. And so we took the J from Simply, and the T from Thrive after which we added the double O’s. And so the product is Simply Calm by Joot and it’s a Simply Thrive model. So we determined to do a complete model growth due to this product as a result of we all know it’s so critically necessary for thus many individuals on the market proper now, particularly with the uncertainty of the world and the stress that we’re dealing every day.


Katie: And I really feel like from the analysis I’ve seen, growing intestine issues within the intestine is sort of a long-term factor that occurred by means of the course of a lifetime usually. Though, usually we will, by means of delivery, enter with a lower than optimum microbiome. When folks begin rehabilitating their intestine with issues like this, how lengthy usually is it earlier than they see outcomes or how fast does that course of occur when you’re actually centered on it?


Tina: Yeah. So with the probiotic, we all the time say that, you already know, it takes… Relying on what you’re experiencing or what you’re attempting to get at from the product, you normally say about 30 days. You already know, typically folks will see outcomes inside a pair days and a few folks will take three months to see a consequence. However for essentially the most half, I’d say on common, you’re a few 30-day the place you begin to actually see some adjustments and the intestine is… We all know we did a research on the probiotic alone displaying that it confirmed a 30% favorable shift within the intestine after about two and a half weeks, which is large. I imply, you don’t discover any probiotic on the market that has that sort of… I’ve by no means seen a research like that, reveals a 30% favorable shift within the intestine simply after two and a half weeks. After which, with the Simply Calm with the 1714 and the B pressure product that we simply launched, that might be, you already know, identical factor in all probability about 30 days to 60 days. The research that was carried out on the 1714 pressure was over a 30-day interval.


Katie: And I do know we’ll get these questions as a result of I do… Anytime we discuss a complement, which is who can take it and who can’t? Can children take it? Can pregnant girls take it? Any cautions round any of that?


Tina: Yeah. However there’s no different indications that… Keep in mind, this can be a regular a part of our intestine flora. So we’re meant to have this pressure in our physique. We all the time inform folks, after all, in the event that they’re pregnant and so they’re nursing, to examine along with your docs, however nice for teenagers, children want this, particularly on this, oh, my gosh, what they’re coping with now, it breaks my coronary heart. And simply to… No issues with children, no contraindications that we’re conscious of presently.


Katie: And like your different merchandise, one factor I like about your probiotics particularly is their warmth secure. They don’t should be refrigerated, but in addition they are often put into meals or smoothies as a result of I’ve a pair that don’t swallow capsules but. Is it the identical with these? Can I add it to stuff?


Tina: Completely. You might add it and blend it with meals. It’s not an issue in any respect. So it received’t lose its efficiency or something like that.


Katie: That’s superior. My oldest daughter has been lastly truly taking your whole merchandise, particularly the K2 and the probiotic as a result of she’s attempting to get quicker for pole vaulting and to develop as a result of she doesn’t wanna be 5’2” perpetually. And he or she, for the longest time, couldn’t swallow capsules. She simply realized, which is superior. However we have been placing them in smoothies or I’d bake them into muffins or no matter simply because she had hassle with the capsules. In order that’s my tip for anyone normally with toddlers, is you possibly can combine it into any sort of meals or apple sauce or no matter and children can get it too.


Tina: Yeah. It’s actually necessary to do this. I feel your daughter needs to be as tall as Cassie, proper?


Katie: That may not fairly be in her genes, however she positively needs to be taller than 5’2.


Tina: You possibly can open the capsules, combine it with meals. It’s superb what number of adults that don’t prefer to swallow capsules both. So she’s not alone.


Katie: Yeah. Or I’ve even discovered… As a result of the probiotics don’t have a robust style, I’ve a recipe for selfmade marshmallows, and so they combine nicely into that when you’ve began whipping the honey and the gelatin. And they also’re probiotic marshmallows, that’s a staple at our home with the children and so they adore it.


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Are there every other supportive way of life or food plan elements that appear to even assist enhance the efficacy when somebody’s including these merchandise in? Something that they’ll do this additionally helps intestine well being or mind well being?


Tina: Yeah. Nicely, so one of many issues I all the time say is the probiotic is so foundational as a result of after we’re speaking about efficacy and absorption, you already know, if our intestine is infected in any respect, we’re not absorbing vitamins. So we’ve to be actually aware of that. So we wanna ensure that we’re taking the probiotic with no matter dietary supplements you’re taking as a result of you already know that that you must be taking, you already know, that you must be doing all types of issues to help your intestine so you would take in these vitamins. After which, we additionally know we wanna numerous microbiome. So I’m an enormous fan of intermittent fasting as a result of we all know now that intermittent fasting helps with range within the intestine. It helps by truly ravenous micro organism that enables you… Some micro organism truly must be starved as a way to proliferate by means of the intestine. So that might be one factor to do exactly to assist proceed to help your intestine well being goes to permit you to take in vitamins and take in different dietary supplements that you simply’re taking and to assist your way of life decisions.


Katie: Yeah. That’s been an enormous half for me. I feel, particularly for ladies, it’s like experimenting with IF and determining what’s your window as a result of I do know there’s lots of people who’re like girls shouldn’t quick, and I’ve had quite a lot of consultants on this podcast who say everybody’s fasting whereas they’re sleeping. Ladies quick. All of us do it. It’s determining what your optimum window is, and perhaps should you’re coming from a spot of thyroid illness or overwhelmed hormones or your postpartum, don’t actually limit your self to a brief window, however you possibly can nonetheless eat a ten to 12-hour window so that you’re nonetheless getting loads of vitamins, loads of energy, and your physique’s nonetheless getting a break, which is supportive of your liver, of your intestine, such as you stated. I’ve additionally seen… I don’t assume they have been for everybody, however I’ve seen actually cool information on a three-day quick being a intestine reset as a result of it lets the intestine have relaxation. And I’m an enormous fan of…after I do quick quick, nonetheless taking the probiotics in order that they’re in my intestine getting to love rehabilitate with out competing, and I’ve observed massive variations from that.


It looks like there’s additionally… And I do know we talked about this just a little bit, very a lot a gut-skin connection. And I feel pores and skin well being is an enormous matter for lots of ladies. For my children, as they’ve gone by means of puberty, they’ve wished to not have pimples. We’ve been centered on pores and skin well being fairly a bit and now as I’m getting older, I’m centered on attempting to maintain my pores and skin wholesome and never get wrinkles. Discuss just a little bit in regards to the gut-skin connection as a result of it does seem to be when somebody had as intestine dysbiosis, you usually see it expressed within the pores and skin.


Tina: Yeah. I imply. so many individuals will go to a well being meals retailer and say, “Oh, I’ve bought this pores and skin rash. You already know, what can I placed on it?” And it’s like, “Yeah. You need to placed on some topical remedies perhaps to assist, you already know, the irritation that you simply’re experiencing” or folks will do issues for, you already know, pimples or different pores and skin situations, however actually all of it stems from the intestine. So we all know, you probably have a, you already know, a intestine or a pores and skin situation, that you must deal with…you already know you’ve gotten some dysbiosis in your intestine. I imply, it’s virtually assured. If in case you have something occurring along with your pores and skin, whether or not it’s pimples, a rash, eczema, you already know, psoriasis, no matter it’s, we all know that that is stemming from an imbalance in our intestine.


So actually necessary to be specializing in the intestine. There are large pores and skin connection. Like we stated, mind connection, immunity. Folks neglect about that too. I imply, 80% of our immune system is present in our intestine lining. We must be specializing in our intestine after we’re speaking about our immune system. So from pores and skin well being to mind well being, to immune well being, all of these items are…from coronary heart well being. I imply, you title it. There’s actually no situation on the market which you can’t discover that’s not related to an imbalance in your intestine. So I might all the time encourage someone after they have a pores and skin situation, to be focusing before everything in your intestine. Like I stated, there could also be some lotions and potions on the market that, you already know, which may additionally assist, however we all know that we have to get to the basis explanation for each time we’re coping with something like that.


Katie: Yeah. And with all of the speak of like how really every part does return to the intestine, I really feel like that is one space that really additionally pays dividends as a result of in case you are bettering your intestine well being, you’re additionally absorbing extra of the meals you’re consuming. You’re getting extra vitamins out of the identical quantity of meals, you might be getting higher sleep, which we all know is without doubt one of the large keys to well being and there’s an enormous intestine connection there. I’ve seen, particularly within the final 12 months, quite a lot of medical analysis popping out about issues like insomnia and sleep points being tied to intestine imbalances and the way there’s an increase in all of these proper now due to all of the continual stress that we’re experiencing that’s inflicting extra intestine disruption. So such as you stated, I really feel like every part really does return to the intestine.


And I do know, in a roundabout way associated to guts and dietary supplements, however one trick I discovered as nicely is that people are very light-dependent being, and I do know you and I each love the daylight. And I discover that simply going outdoors within the morning and getting a couple of minutes of morning daylight together with including these items in and specializing in the intestine is one other nice technique to, like, enhance your resilience, give your self power, and actually assist enhance sleep at night time. And I do know that you simply additionally don’t simply analysis and like discuss this life. You all in stay this life and your loved ones lives this life and also you guys have a really wholesome way of life. So I’d love to listen to every other issues which can be perhaps your private non-negotiables that you simply do you for well being or perhaps your 80/20, just like the 20% of issues that you simply really feel like provide the greatest profit in your individual life.


Tina: Yeah. So the largest profit I feel for me is simply strolling outdoors. I’m an enormous walker. I do the quick strolling. Generally I add just a little jog in there, however I… And it’s bought to be outdoors. And I stay in Chicago the place the climate is terrible, particularly in January, but it surely doesn’t matter. I’m on the market. Except it’s actually icy and harmful, I’m just about on the market on a regular basis. It’s so good for me being in that, such as you talked about, the daylight and being outdoors with nature is simply tremendous necessary and that’s additionally tremendous necessary on your intestine.


I additionally, each morning, do my deep respiration. I exploit an app referred to as the HeartMath. I do this frequently. It’s non-negotiable as a result of it’s so necessary. I understand how necessary your… I do know that the mind impacts your intestine. I do all these items to, you already know, help my intestine well being, and I’ve to calm myself down. Clearly, I’m tremendous busy, three children, a enterprise that I’m operating. It’s sort of loopy every day. So, although my children are older, however I nonetheless have to calm my mind down just a little bit. In order that has been actually useful to me, too.


Katie: Yeah. I adore it. And I’ve seen you do this even after we’ve been at occasions or touring collectively, you rise up and also you go for a stroll day by day, and I’ll say, understanding you in particular person, you might be one of many folks I do know who simply has seemingly boundless power. And am I remembering proper? You don’t drink espresso?


Tina: No. I imply, I typically will drink decaf as a result of I like the style of it, however I simply can’t… The caffeine is an excessive amount of for me. I’ve sufficient power alone.


Katie: It’s a humorous factor. I really feel like a few of the most energetic folks I do know don’t drink espresso. I’m like, “Hmm. I’m wondering.” But in addition to your level, what’s that quote that like the place you attempt to deal with all these costly biohacks, however on the finish of the day, like, return to the easy issues like hydrate, get daylight. Mainly, we’re sophisticated home vegetation with feelings. Like we nonetheless have to do these items. We must be out in nature. And I feel that one will get neglected for lots of people as nicely.


Tina: Completely. I couldn’t agree with you extra.


Katie: Nicely, I might additionally like to know, what’s subsequent for you guys. Are you researching any new merchandise which you can discuss but? I’m certain there are some which can be secret, however every other enjoyable ones arising quickly?


Tina: Yeah. Nicely, you already know, we’ve put a lot power into our temper product, however we’ve just lately began researching… Ironic that you simply requested, is pores and skin well being product. So I’m excited to sort of discuss that perhaps subsequent time as a result of we’re not within the launch part but or something, however we’re getting there. So we’re simply continuously looking for, like I stated, issues which can be lacking and wanted available in the market. And so we’re gonna be specializing in the pores and skin as a result of that’s additionally affected…individuals are being affected by pores and skin points at loopy charges nowadays.


Katie: Yeah. Sadly, no less than the information I’m seeing, just about every part is on the rise proper now, which to circle again to the start of the episode, goes again quite a bit to emphasize. So we’ve all been coping with a complete lot of stress the final couple of years, which hopefully we’ll see some aid from quickly, each from in our personal lives and societally, however the place are proper now.


A couple of questions I like to ask as we get near the top of the time. And I do know I’ve requested you this one earlier than, however you can provide the identical or totally different solutions, and that’s if there’s a guide or numerous books which have profoundly impacted your life, and in that case, what they’re and why.


Tina: Yeah. So I feel I had talked about earlier than “The 4 Agreements.” I do know it’s been used so many instances in your present, but it surely simply actually…it’s such a easy, great guide. And I all the time say like there’s not a phrase wasted in that guide. It will get proper to the purpose and has actually helped change my life and the way in which I take a look at issues. Even one of many 4 agreements is to all the time do your finest and I feel…and that could be totally different on totally different days. And that was reminder as a result of I feel we all the time wanna do our greatest, however typically it simply seems totally different on totally different days. In order that was… It sort of launched me just a little bit. After which, certainly one of my different favorites is “I Can See Clearly Now” by Wayne Dyer. Wayne Dyer is certainly certainly one of my heroes in life and positively, his books have been life-changing for me.


Katie: Yeah. You launched me to him I feel largely, and I’ve been actually having fun with studying quite a lot of his stuff as nicely. I do know he’s been a extremely massive affect in your life as nicely. And on that observe, any recommendation that you simply wanna move on? Loads of mothers are listening, and I do know I usually get requested like how do you steadiness enterprise and children and all of the issues occurring and also you do the very same factor. So any recommendation associated to something we’ve talked about or something fully unrelated?


Tina: Yeah. I assume I might say to present your self grace. I feel that’s such a tough factor for mothers and us girls who’re tremendous motivated and pushed and wanna get quite a bit carried out, is we’ve to present ourselves grace that we will’t do every part and that after we do wanna make adjustments in our life, whether or not it’s well being, or funds, or, you already know, social life, no matter it is likely to be, that we simply take child steps and simply day by day, should you simply take little child steps day by day, they make profound adjustments in our lives. And I feel that’s what’s helped me, is I took child steps and I used to be attempting to be affected person after we have been launching the corporate, and there have been a few years, you already know, to start with, that have been actually, actually exhausting and that we weren’t making a ton of progress. After which… However I simply all the time took these child steps and subsequent factor you already know, you already know, we had this profitable firm that was being, you already know, talked about by folks such as you and different well being and wellness influencers. So I simply would say give your self grace and simply take child steps frequently.


Katie: I like that. And I wanna all the time say it’s such a pleasure to all the time speak to you and I like the merchandise. I do know there’s so many merchandise on the market and I all the time rave in regards to the ones that you simply guys make as a result of they really are each day staples in my life to the purpose that, like, to verify I bear in mind probiotics and K2, they’re on my kitchen desk with the salt and pepper in order that they’re all the time there at meals and I can simply move them round to the children. That’s a tip I give folks usually, is like, particularly after they’re actually necessary issues like that, put them in your method. So if there’s a nighttime complement, put it subsequent to your toothbrush. If there’s a morning one, put it in your nightstand. If it’s with meals, put it in your kitchen desk and depart it there as a result of usually we neglect if it’s not… And, you already know, not high of thoughts, should you don’t see it. And so, yours are very a lot part of my life. They’re in my home, my children’ lives, and I’m simply tremendous grateful. And I do know from understanding you, how massive your coronary heart is and the way a lot of a ardour you guys have for really serving to folks and altering lives. So grateful for you, and on your friendship, and on your time, and thanks as all the time for being right here, Tina.


Tina: Oh, thanks, Katie. I really feel the very same method about you. Your coronary heart is so massive, and also you’re simply an incredible human being. And thanks for bringing all of this nice data to folks on the market. I do know my daughters are large followers, and so they learn your blogs on a regular basis. You’re like their Bible, after which, you’re my Bible too. So thanks.


Katie: Aw, thanks. And I like your women. And my daughters are large followers of them as nicely. So I like that our households have gotten to attach, and thanks on your time. And as all the time, due to all of you for listening, for sharing your most useful assets, your time, your power, and your consideration with us immediately. We’re each so grateful that you simply did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode of the “Wellness Mama Podcast.”


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